June 21, 2011 | Iain Nicholson

An answer to Alistair

Dear Alistair,

I thank you for your comments to my letter, G’day Australia.You are obviously also passionate, as am I, on this issue. While I do not wish to end up in a personal slanging match with you, you have also raised some very relevant points that I may or may not agree with, but must also be addressed.

Yes, I do produce animals as you put it so nicely “to kill and eat their bodies”. I like to eat meat. So does the overriding population of the world like to eat meat. So yes, I do this to survive, financialy, and to suit my needs as a human being. My decision, my right.

A liberationalist?

I would like to think my views as a person, just like yourself, but also as a professional primary producer, will bear some weight in helping solve some of the issues with which we have been confronted with by the industry, the Australian Government and the media, in this case, “Four Corners”. I hope I can do so with some professionalism and expertise.

The Government is being held to ransom by independent groups who are actually calling the shots and hold the balance of power. Publically funded media outlets such as Four Corners should be for all Australians and not show only one sided views of a topic.

I personally have abandoned, in some cases to my detriment, the production of primarily, meat producing animals to concentrate on a relatively cleaner and renewable resource that is wool. You forgot to attack that one by the way.

An environmentalist?

Good point. People have always cleared lands to produce the clothing, vegetable, cereal crops and housing that you do consume.

I do not think we can all just move back into the jungles, even if we would like to!

My Government also prevents me from further clearing my lands, and I ensure that each and every year I allocate some of my time and resources into creating and saving the environment, and wildlife and to protect these ,as does the majority of producers.

We have some great leaders, particaly in the younger generation, in this industry that are trying to achieve this.

The world as it is, is expanding at an ever increasing, alarming, and I hope, not, an imploding rate. People must eat. We are also animals and ruminants that also produce emissions, not just from our own backsides and agriculture, but from a whole range of consumerist devices. While some things are not” ideal” in yours or my ideologies, many of these are required by the people of the world.

People also need water with which to bathe, drink and to produce the resources which you also consume. That is why this is a shared, monitored and policed resource.


I would like to think that not one of my livestock ends up in a slaughter-house, but this will never be the case. I am also a realist! I have witnessed the progress that the livestock export industry of Australia has introduced and also agree, it is far from perfect, but the fact is, it is making progress! And I promise you, I have not just gained my information from watching a one-sided view on national television. I have been in this industry and grown up with it my whole life.

The graziers (of which I am one), and meat-workers, are and have been driven out of this industry by the cheap option of foreign processing. As a child, I was driven through a unionist picket line at an abattoir, with my family in the Northern Territory and witnessed the resulting demise and reconstruction of the northern cattle industry that has never fully recovered. That is why we have limited slaughtering facilities in this country. Not because of live export! Live export was put in place as a response to help solve this problem. Just as it was put in place to deal with the demise that resulted from the beaurocratic involvement and bungling that destroyed the Australian Wool Industry. Due to this, as an apprentice in my trade, I had to stand in a puddle of blood while I shot and disposed of the carcasses of sheep. I do not wish to wake up and have to do this again!

We must also take into account the results of bio-security of our borders. I personally had to sit in a helicopter in Central Australia, with a rifle and shoot cattle, due to the Governments disease eradication campaigns that were BTEC. That work should not have been in vain. I have witnessed first -hand the destruction of the animals surrounding my wife’s family farm in England caused by disease, and yes, once again, I was there. I also know and have worked with, many affected people in all of these instances, so I do know what I am talking about.

Cheap option of foreign processing?

Finally, I ask you. Where do you think that all of our resources like gas, coal, and minerals are heading? People in third world countries are dying while they process these resources in under policed societies so that we can profit and buy our processed products back at a cheaper rate. This also has an effect on animals, the environment and the people of the world, not just the workers of Australia. But does the Australian Government ban this? No!

While I appreciate your comments and endeavour, I still do not see you as an enemy. But please Alistair do not bury your head in the sand as some may end up your nose!

Posted by Iain Nicholson at 9:08 pm | Comments (3) |


  1. Excellent response! As a cattle breeder of many generations we are always trying to find ways to make a cattle healthier and happier. This results in cattle that are easy to handle and yes Alistair, improves our profitability. Farmers depend entirely on the health of their environment which is why the farmers of the Liverpool Plains are so united in opposing coal and coal seam gas development in their area. So Alistair. what would you rather – a huge development of coal and coal seam gas or paddocks of healthy cattle and crops for food production?

    Comment by Rosemary Nankivell — June 21, 2011 @ 9:44 pm

  2. Fabulouse response. It leaves no doubts or misconceptions from both points of view. The only critisism is the word person. Do you understand what the word person is and means?
    Persona is Latin for person. It means a mask, a fiction entity. A natural living man or woman (flesh, blood, bone and a soul) is real, NOT a fictitous entity.
    When we are born we are named by our parents with our names in both upper and lower case letters Example; John or Joan Doe. Our parents and the hospital then register our birth with the government agency Births Deaths and Marriages who then create our Birth Certificate. In creating our Birth Certificate our names are altered and changed to all UPPER CASE LETTERS example; JOHN or JOAN DOE this has now created the PERSON and changed our status from a natural living man or woman has now given us a FICTITIOUS TRADE NAME ENTITY, making us a STRAW-MAN or STRAW-WOMAN and a CORPORATE ENTITY. We are now owned by the government as a possession allowing them to do with us as they wish. Our parents then are only our minders are caretakers to raise us. Our birth certificate has created a contract without our patents or us realising. Look at any utility bill, your bank occounts and statements, your driver licence, deeds to your property etcetera and you will notice that your name is printed in all upper case letters example; MR JOHN DOE or MISS or MRS JOAN DOE and that is your CONTRACT NAME. You have unknowingly and unwittingly entered into contracts.
    You are NOT a PERSON you HAVE a PERSON and you the natural man or woman (flesh, blood, bone with a soul) is only the agent for the PERSON to sign documents and contracts on its behalf. You are not liable or have any responsibilities for the PERSON unless you consent.
    Failure to notify that you DO NOT consent is deemed as you are consenting to contract.
    I hope this comment may assist you and your subscribers.

    Comment by Gypsy — June 22, 2011 @ 3:41 am

  3. Iain Nicholson, Well said! I tend to agree with all your expressed sentiments.
    I personnaly have spent a lifetime in the meat industry and also have owned/worked a sheep property in Western Australia.
    I have also witnessed union led meatworkers attempting to stop live sheep exports on Fremantle wharf as a protest against live sheep exports to the Middle East. I might add here, the meatworkers were entirely on their own receiving no help from organisations such as: Get Up, ARSPCA, Animals Australia, Federal MP’s,Etc.
    Also having worked in the then Northern abattoirs: Broome, Glenroy, Wyndham. I am firmly of the opinion, without a shadow of a doubt, the ever increasing live animal shipments actively assisted the demise of: 1) the Northern abattoirs, 2) the government owned Robb Jetty abattoir.
    One cannot blame the farmer for selling his product to the highest bidder, he after all has to make a living, exactly the same as the meat works owner and his employees. If the live exporter is the highest bidder then the live exporter secures the sale. If the farmer allowed his heart to determine where he sold his product then he would very soon join the ranks of the unemployed. There is room for both the live exporter and the Western Australian meat works in the agricultural industry.
    Both industries (live exports & abattoirs) however should be conducted in a humane manner with the welfare of the animal as the prior consideration.

    Comment by Jack Randles — June 22, 2011 @ 4:06 am

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