Comments on: Why Colin and I will be voting for Obama http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/ Ambit Gambit Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:31:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ronda http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2759 Ronda Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:39:32 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=3410#comment-2759 Alf, I agree that England is in a bad spot. Overall I only was referring to the possibility of providing universal social services. But even that seems to be crumbling a bit in Europe, the advance warning of massive unsustainability. What is missing, alas, is any concept of hemming in population growth and flows. Countries that still have fairly homogenous ethnicity, such as Costa Rica and Romania, which I visited last year, are living in a sweet cocoon, for the time being. Free trade agreements and membership in the EU will tear that gentle illusion of stability apart in the next few years. Alf, I agree that England is in a bad spot. Overall I only was referring to the possibility of providing universal social services.
But even that seems to be crumbling a bit in Europe, the advance warning of massive unsustainability.
What is missing, alas, is any concept of hemming in population growth and flows. Countries that still have fairly homogenous ethnicity, such as Costa Rica and Romania, which I visited last year, are living in a sweet cocoon, for the time being. Free trade agreements and membership in the EU will tear that gentle illusion of stability apart in the next few years.

]]> By: alf welch http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2760 alf welch Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:56:29 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=3410#comment-2760 Your description of a hearty situation in Europe was not including the UK was it.The country is bancrupt and in the process of introducing Shariah Law for the ever growing population of Islamics. Gordon Brown is a Scot who has rendered the nation helpless to the influx of ne'er do wells from all corners of Europe. There will only be one plus for an Obama victory and that will be the lack of an ugly black uprising. The minuses will be catastrophic for all concerned. Your description of a hearty situation in Europe was not including the UK was it.The country is bancrupt and in the process of introducing Shariah Law for the ever growing population of Islamics. Gordon Brown is a Scot who has rendered the nation helpless to the influx of ne’er do wells from all corners of Europe.
There will only be one plus for an Obama victory and that will be the lack of an ugly black uprising. The minuses will be catastrophic for all concerned.

]]> By: Graham Bell http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2761 Graham Bell Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:55:26 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=3410#comment-2761 Ronda Jambe. you said .... <blockquote>"Gee, I wouldn´t have said McCain would be a fine President, as he has consistently supported Bush". </blockquote> True enough .... as an aspirant for the Presidency, that was a pragmatic course to take .... and, worse yet, he has been kissing-and-cuddling one of the most malevolent forces in the world right now: the followers of the AntiChrist disguised as fanatical so-called "evangelical christians" .... but John McCain is being nice to this evil because he is still only an aspirant to the Presidency - he is not yet President. He is a strategist. Once in office and no longer dependant on the votes of the fake christians, he would turn on them in a flash .... and they would get their just deserts - and a lot earlier than Judgement Day too - to the resounding cheers of the rest of the American people. Richard Nixon may have been a crook and an unlovely person but he was the last ever Republican who even looked like being a REAL President before John McCain became a candidate for that office. Both Nixon and McCain stand head-and-shoulders above anything the the failed Bush quasi-monarchy has or could produce. Arjay: Maybe John McCain will be the one to end the Federal Reserve house-of-cards? If he did, that would make him one of the greatest leaders of the 21st Century. Ronda Jambe. you said ….

“Gee, I wouldn´t have said McCain would be a fine President, as he has consistently supported Bush”.

True enough …. as an aspirant for the Presidency, that was a pragmatic course to take …. and, worse yet, he has been kissing-and-cuddling one of the most malevolent forces in the world right now: the followers of the AntiChrist disguised as fanatical so-called “evangelical christians” …. but John McCain is being nice to this evil because he is still only an aspirant to the Presidency – he is not yet President.
He is a strategist. Once in office and no longer dependant on the votes of the fake christians, he would turn on them in a flash …. and they would get their just deserts – and a lot earlier than Judgement Day too – to the resounding cheers of the rest of the American people.
Richard Nixon may have been a crook and an unlovely person but he was the last ever Republican who even looked like being a REAL President before John McCain became a candidate for that office. Both Nixon and McCain stand head-and-shoulders above anything the the failed Bush quasi-monarchy has or could produce.
Arjay:
Maybe John McCain will be the one to end the Federal Reserve house-of-cards? If he did, that would make him one of the greatest leaders of the 21st Century.

]]> By: Arjay http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2762 Arjay Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:45:54 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=3410#comment-2762 When Obarma has the courage to take on the US Federal Reserve,a privately owned banking cartell that generates paper money and pays no tax,then I will believe in his good intentions. You see the US Govt must borrow all it's funding needs from the Federal Reserve,they are now in $9 trillion debt which the tax payer repays to the Federal Reserve with interest.This agreement was signed in 1913 by Woodro Wilson in return for funding for his presendency.He later lamented that he had sold out his country.Never truer words were spoken. The last man to challenge this cartell was John K Kennedy.He had plans for the US Govt to issue it's own green backs,but alas was assassinated. Our Reserve Bank is owned by our Govt and the profits go back to the people. When Obarma has the courage to take on the US Federal Reserve,a privately owned banking cartell that generates paper money and pays no tax,then I will believe in his good intentions.
You see the US Govt must borrow all it’s funding needs from the Federal Reserve,they are now in $9 trillion debt which the tax payer repays to the Federal Reserve with interest.This agreement was signed in 1913 by Woodro Wilson in return for funding for his presendency.He later lamented that he had sold out his country.Never truer words were spoken.
The last man to challenge this cartell was John K Kennedy.He had plans for the US Govt to issue it’s own green backs,but alas was assassinated.
Our Reserve Bank is owned by our Govt and the profits go back to the people.

]]> By: ronda jambe http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2763 ronda jambe Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:49:50 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=3410#comment-2763 Yes, there is no hiding the fact that the Democrats have had a big hand in the mess with the economy, both mortgages and lack of prudential oversight and regulation and enforcement. Good government is expensive, bad government is unaffordable. Yes, there is no hiding the fact that the Democrats have had a big hand in the mess with the economy, both mortgages and lack of prudential oversight and regulation and enforcement.
Good government is expensive, bad government is unaffordable.

]]> By: Geoff Brown http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2764 Geoff Brown Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:39:54 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=3410#comment-2764 The problems in America (and the rest of the world) are a result of the CRA. Isn't it funny that Democrat Jimmy Carter initiated the Community ReInvestment Act and then Hill Billy Clinton lowered the bar to give more mortgages to Hispanics and Blacks. In Bush Junior's first term McCain tried to raise the bar. Obama did not support this. Now everyone is punishing the Republicans for stupid Democrat Ideas. In a similar way, on last Sunday's ABC Insiders programme on the "Your Shout" Segment - one of the Wallies said - re KRudd handing out his "Pennies from Kevin" They've budgeted so well that they have an excess, so it's good that they will give it back. They give that person a vote!! The problems in America (and the rest of the world) are a result of the CRA.
Isn’t it funny that Democrat Jimmy Carter initiated the Community ReInvestment Act and then Hill Billy Clinton lowered the bar to give more mortgages to Hispanics and Blacks. In Bush Junior’s first term McCain tried to raise the bar. Obama did not support this.
Now everyone is punishing the Republicans for stupid Democrat Ideas.
In a similar way, on last Sunday’s ABC Insiders programme on the “Your Shout” Segment – one of the Wallies said – re KRudd handing out his “Pennies from Kevin”
They’ve budgeted so well that they have an excess, so it’s good that they will give it back.
They give that person a vote!!

]]> By: Ronda Jambe http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2765 Ronda Jambe Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:28:14 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=3410#comment-2765 Gee, I wouldn´t have said McCain would be a fine President, as he has consistently supported Bush. Don´t forget, the moderates in the US are far to the right of anything we know in Australia. The interest shown internationally in this election really shows how entwined we all are, and yes, some represntation in this matter of global importance would be desirable. I think it´s called ´global governance´and is the only way forward. Maybe, as a start, Obama would support the UN and move away from the militaristic unilateralism that the nutters in the US lable as ÚS Exceptionalism´. Gee, I wouldn´t have said McCain would be a fine President, as he has consistently supported Bush.
Don´t forget, the moderates in the US are far to the right of anything we know in Australia.
The interest shown internationally in this election really shows how entwined we all are, and yes, some represntation in this matter of global importance would be desirable. I think it´s called ´global governance´and is the only way forward. Maybe, as a start, Obama would support the UN and move away from the militaristic unilateralism that the nutters in the US lable as ÚS Exceptionalism´.

]]> By: Graham Bell http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2766 Graham Bell Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:25:00 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=3410#comment-2766 Ronda Jambe: I burst out laughing and cheering when I heard the news about Colin Powell's support for Barack Obama. POWELL'S REVENGE .... and good luck to him too. He was treated shamefully by that gangplank-dodging Failed King of What's Left of America and his henchmen. The scumbags who betrayed him probably thought he was crushed, broken, impotent, forgotten and of no account whatsoever; a has-been who never was and so could be safely ignored. He might have been knocked down but he wasn't out. He has bounced back. It just goes to show: you can't keep a good man down. He has made a monkey out of Bush's "surrender monkeys". I don't doubt that Colin Powell does have a lot of respect for that genuine war hero, John McCain, and, in other circumstances, might well have supported McCain who is such a fine candidate for President. He probably had to do a lot of real soul-searching before he decided to go public with his preference for Obama. If the Democrats do win, I hope they can use the manifest talents of those who have shown themselves to be true American patriots: John McCain, Colin Powell, Condaleeza Rice, Hilary R. Clinton, John Edwards and their like. by the way, I'm still puzzled by the classing of both Obama and Powell as "Black" when they both clearly have immigrant backgrounds: Obama's father a Kenyan; Powell's parents Jamaican. As for vote-rigging: the hanging chads of Florida, the deregistration of thousands of lawfully registered voters and all the other electoral tomfoolery should have been enough to get United Nations observers involved in all future U.S. elections; wonder why they are not supervising this election? Ronda Jambe:
I burst out laughing and cheering when I heard the news about Colin Powell’s support for Barack Obama.
POWELL’S REVENGE …. and good luck to him too.
He was treated shamefully by that gangplank-dodging Failed King of What’s Left of America and his henchmen.
The scumbags who betrayed him probably thought he was crushed, broken, impotent, forgotten and of no account whatsoever; a has-been who never was and so could be safely ignored. He might have been knocked down but he wasn’t out. He has bounced back. It just goes to show: you can’t keep a good man down. He has made a monkey out of Bush’s “surrender monkeys”.
I don’t doubt that Colin Powell does have a lot of respect for that genuine war hero, John McCain, and, in other circumstances, might well have supported McCain who is such a fine candidate for President. He probably had to do a lot of real soul-searching before he decided to go public with his preference for Obama.
If the Democrats do win, I hope they can use the manifest talents of those who have shown themselves to be true American patriots: John McCain, Colin Powell, Condaleeza Rice, Hilary R. Clinton, John Edwards and their like.
by the way, I’m still puzzled by the classing of both Obama and Powell as “Black” when they both clearly have immigrant backgrounds: Obama’s father a Kenyan; Powell’s parents Jamaican.
As for vote-rigging: the hanging chads of Florida, the deregistration of thousands of lawfully registered voters and all the other electoral tomfoolery should have been enough to get United Nations observers involved in all future U.S. elections; wonder why they are not supervising this election?

]]> By: examinator ant http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2767 examinator ant Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:02:10 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=3410#comment-2767 Indulging is a number of discussion sites in the US as I do, one could get an impression that the US is far more politically polarized than Aus. Especially when it considers the perceived amount and depth of vitriol exchanged. One site still refers to Rupert Murdock as a foreign citizen and has therefore no right to express “clearly Un-American views pandering to foreign interests”. His crime was to air Palin’s mumble stumbles on Fox. (I’ll resist the urge to state the obvious.) That was gem on a ‘liberal’ site! Its OK Rhonda idiocy knows no national boundaries. What does appear is a sense of national desperation and unravelling of US euphoric pride in the face a seemingly endless parade of national ‘embarrassments’. It seems to me that there is a number of ‘interesting’ factors at play in this election namely: • The choice this time is not so clear cut. Almost everyone in the US is feeling the negative influences of the consequences of recent years. • Consequently to many grass root Republicans’ decision isn’t so clear in this election. ‘Conservative’ is good but…they’re suffering, something has gone wrong with the ‘Conservative dream’. • The question they seem to be facing is that the ‘personnel weren’t up to the task favouring their buddies too much’ (hence GWB’s relatively subterranean approval figures even among Republican voters.) so HOW FAR do they go in implementing a change? Democrat Power?! It seems that McCain isn’t enough of a “Republican” Change to overwhelm their fears . For a short time Palin seemed to add that stark “Republican” stamp to the Presidency. What I wonder is will this be a true contest (as much that a Federal US election can be given their plethora of institutionalized perverting inconsistencies) or merely a case of if sufficient demoralized Republicans will stay home allowing the swingers to influence the outcome. The Chinese curse('May you live in interesting times')is decidedly to the fore. Indulging is a number of discussion sites in the US as I do, one could get an impression that the US is far more politically polarized than Aus. Especially when it considers the perceived amount and depth of vitriol exchanged.
One site still refers to Rupert Murdock as a foreign citizen and has therefore no right to express “clearly Un-American views pandering to foreign interests”. His crime was to air Palin’s mumble stumbles on Fox. (I’ll resist the urge to state the obvious.) That was gem on a ‘liberal’ site! Its OK Rhonda idiocy knows no national boundaries.
What does appear is a sense of national desperation and unravelling of US euphoric pride in the face a seemingly endless parade of national ‘embarrassments’.
It seems to me that there is a number of ‘interesting’ factors at play in this election namely:
• The choice this time is not so clear cut. Almost everyone in the US is feeling the negative influences of the consequences of recent years.
• Consequently to many grass root Republicans’ decision isn’t so clear in this election. ‘Conservative’ is good but…they’re suffering, something has gone wrong with the ‘Conservative dream’.
• The question they seem to be facing is that the ‘personnel weren’t up to the task favouring their buddies too much’ (hence GWB’s relatively subterranean approval figures even among Republican voters.) so HOW FAR do they go in implementing a change? Democrat Power?!
It seems that McCain isn’t enough of a “Republican” Change to overwhelm their fears . For a short time Palin seemed to add that stark “Republican” stamp to the Presidency.
What I wonder is will this be a true contest (as much that a Federal US election can be given their plethora of institutionalized perverting inconsistencies) or merely a case of if sufficient demoralized Republicans will stay home allowing the swingers to influence the outcome.
The Chinese curse(‘May you live in interesting times’)is decidedly to the fore.

]]> By: John Tons http://www.ambitgambit.com/2008/10/22/why-colin-and-i-will-be-voting-for-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2768 John Tons Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:54:35 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=3410#comment-2768 the outcome of the USA presidential elections will have an impact not just on Americans but people globally. The decisions that Bush made to fully embrace the neo-con version of economics have led to global bank bailouts. As an Australian tax payer my taxes have been ear marked to protect our financial system all because Jeb Bush decided to ensure his brother got elected. The Americans fought their war of independence under the slogan No Taxation Without Representation. Perhaps it is high time that we reminded them of that fact and insisted that every citizen world wide should be entitrled to vote in the US presidential elections. the outcome of the USA presidential elections will have an impact not just on Americans but people globally. The decisions that Bush made to fully embrace the neo-con version of economics have led to global bank bailouts. As an Australian tax payer my taxes have been ear marked to protect our financial system all because Jeb Bush decided to ensure his brother got elected.
The Americans fought their war of independence under the slogan No Taxation Without Representation. Perhaps it is high time that we reminded them of that fact and insisted that every citizen world wide should be entitrled to vote in the US presidential elections.

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