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	<title>Comments on: Faction fighting breaks out in Queensland</title>
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		<title>By: Graham Young</title>
		<link>http://www.ambitgambit.com/2007/11/27/faction-fighting-breaks-out-in-queensland/comment-page-1/#comment-2024</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t think that polling&#039;s likely to be accurate. -60 requires a disapproval rating higher than 60 and a negigible approval rating. Much more likely it&#039;s just a bit more disinformation.
And what did the polling say about Tim Nicholls, or did they forget to tell you? Had anyone even heard of him?
And last time I checked the ABS coalition didn&#039;t control management committee, and as demonstrated by today&#039;s outburst, don&#039;t control the President. The papers report that Geoff Greene is involved in this, and they certainly don&#039;t control him.
I&#039;m not sure to what extent they even control state council. But even if they did, how does this give them control over Nicholls?
You&#039;re just running lines.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t think that polling&#8217;s likely to be accurate. -60 requires a disapproval rating higher than 60 and a negigible approval rating. Much more likely it&#8217;s just a bit more disinformation.<br />
And what did the polling say about Tim Nicholls, or did they forget to tell you? Had anyone even heard of him?<br />
And last time I checked the ABS coalition didn&#8217;t control management committee, and as demonstrated by today&#8217;s outburst, don&#8217;t control the President. The papers report that Geoff Greene is involved in this, and they certainly don&#8217;t control him.<br />
I&#8217;m not sure to what extent they even control state council. But even if they did, how does this give them control over Nicholls?<br />
You&#8217;re just running lines.</p>
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		<title>By: blind freddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blind freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The internal polling shows Flegg with a net appeal of -60 and Seeney on -10 from memory, far behind Bligh.  This polling was presented originally to the whole of State executive immediately after the State election and then again a couple of months ago.
I have nothing against Mr Flegg as a person but he has clearly been unable to stamp his authority on a meagure seven other colleagues.  How would he manage a government party room!?
The poor guy just has some sort of reverse Midas touch and needs to accept that.  Performance and outcomes are the bottom line and they are not good enough.
And your constant reference to the Santoro faction, last I checked they did not win convention and are thus not the dominant faction in the party, so why doesn&#039;t the ABS (Anything But Santo) grouping put a muzzle on them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internal polling shows Flegg with a net appeal of -60 and Seeney on -10 from memory, far behind Bligh.  This polling was presented originally to the whole of State executive immediately after the State election and then again a couple of months ago.<br />
I have nothing against Mr Flegg as a person but he has clearly been unable to stamp his authority on a meagure seven other colleagues.  How would he manage a government party room!?<br />
The poor guy just has some sort of reverse Midas touch and needs to accept that.  Performance and outcomes are the bottom line and they are not good enough.<br />
And your constant reference to the Santoro faction, last I checked they did not win convention and are thus not the dominant faction in the party, so why doesn&#8217;t the ABS (Anything But Santo) grouping put a muzzle on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Young Lib</title>
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		<dc:creator>Young Lib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Graham and Vee-Dub are ill-informed.
Jan Stuckey is and always has been a Santo hack!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Graham and Vee-Dub are ill-informed.<br />
Jan Stuckey is and always has been a Santo hack!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone see the Courier-Mail this morning?
As someone who&#039;s a supporter of democracy before any party, it seems like the Libs are really playing with fire by brawling when they&#039;re in such a parlous position.
It is of course always possible for things to be worse (just ask the Democrats), and it seems to me that they&#039;re right on the edge of complete self-destruction in this State. Meanwhile Queensland has no effective opposition.
Even the ALP during the Joh years never got this bad. To brawling Liberals: If you can&#039;t think about the good of your Party, think about democracy. The Government is currently operating with no effective scrutiny - even ALP supporters do not want this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone see the Courier-Mail this morning?<br />
As someone who&#8217;s a supporter of democracy before any party, it seems like the Libs are really playing with fire by brawling when they&#8217;re in such a parlous position.<br />
It is of course always possible for things to be worse (just ask the Democrats), and it seems to me that they&#8217;re right on the edge of complete self-destruction in this State. Meanwhile Queensland has no effective opposition.<br />
Even the ALP during the Joh years never got this bad. To brawling Liberals: If you can&#8217;t think about the good of your Party, think about democracy. The Government is currently operating with no effective scrutiny &#8211; even ALP supporters do not want this.</p>
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		<title>By: Birsbane Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.ambitgambit.com/2007/11/27/faction-fighting-breaks-out-in-queensland/comment-page-1/#comment-2028</link>
		<dc:creator>Birsbane Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was I right in hearing that Nicholls originally said &quot;This is all about us&quot; before apologising and saying &quot;This is all about Queensland&quot;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was I right in hearing that Nicholls originally said &#8220;This is all about us&#8221; before apologising and saying &#8220;This is all about Queensland&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, another anonymous &quot;well-informed&quot; insider. Stuckey was one of the four. And if it is all about JP, then why isn&#039;t he the candidate?
The interesting thing will be to see how they try to manouever to get Caltabiano back into parliament. If JP&#039;s been told he&#039;s going to be the future, he&#039;s being dudded.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, another anonymous &#8220;well-informed&#8221; insider. Stuckey was one of the four. And if it is all about JP, then why isn&#8217;t he the candidate?<br />
The interesting thing will be to see how they try to manouever to get Caltabiano back into parliament. If JP&#8217;s been told he&#8217;s going to be the future, he&#8217;s being dudded.</p>
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		<title>By: Vee-Dubb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vee-Dubb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuckey has moved across to Nicholls so it&#039;s a done deal.
The real story here is Langbroek. Nicholls will be rebuilding towards 2010 and taking the inevitable electoral loss. Langbroek will then take over. Of the crop of 8, J-P would seem to be the most effective.
It&#039;s a pity that McArdle is so weak.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuckey has moved across to Nicholls so it&#8217;s a done deal.<br />
The real story here is Langbroek. Nicholls will be rebuilding towards 2010 and taking the inevitable electoral loss. Langbroek will then take over. Of the crop of 8, J-P would seem to be the most effective.<br />
It&#8217;s a pity that McArdle is so weak.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Young</title>
		<link>http://www.ambitgambit.com/2007/11/27/faction-fighting-breaks-out-in-queensland/comment-page-1/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would you know what is in &quot;party polling&quot;? And tell me, what does the &quot;polling&quot; say about Nicholls?
Amazing how close an eye some anonymous people keep on this blog. If people like you didn&#039;t spend their whole time working out how to undermine Flegg he might be able to devote his time to fixing his image.
You all egged him on to challenge Quinn, and then as soon as he replaced him just switched your aim!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would you know what is in &#8220;party polling&#8221;? And tell me, what does the &#8220;polling&#8221; say about Nicholls?<br />
Amazing how close an eye some anonymous people keep on this blog. If people like you didn&#8217;t spend their whole time working out how to undermine Flegg he might be able to devote his time to fixing his image.<br />
You all egged him on to challenge Quinn, and then as soon as he replaced him just switched your aim!</p>
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		<title>By: blind freddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blind freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blind Freddy can see that Flegg is totally ineffective.  Internal party polling has demonstrated quantitatively just how unpopular Flegg really is with the punters.
For him to stay on as leader after that polling just shows how arrogant he is and without change the Queensland Parliamentary Party is doomed to further electoral defeats.
This is just basic Newtonian physics!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blind Freddy can see that Flegg is totally ineffective.  Internal party polling has demonstrated quantitatively just how unpopular Flegg really is with the punters.<br />
For him to stay on as leader after that polling just shows how arrogant he is and without change the Queensland Parliamentary Party is doomed to further electoral defeats.<br />
This is just basic Newtonian physics!</p>
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