Comments on: Torture Blofeld http://www.ambitgambit.com/2005/05/20/torture-blofeld/ Ambit Gambit Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:01:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: hjbartz http://www.ambitgambit.com/2005/05/20/torture-blofeld/comment-page-1/#comment-750 hjbartz Tue, 24 May 2005 02:54:23 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=620#comment-750 Justice John Paul Stevens of the US Supreme Court hit the nail on the head when he said "... for if this nation is to remain true ... it must not wield the tools of tyrants even to resist an assault by the forces of tyranny." One could add that to that comment "... and that if we do so that makes us no better than the tyrant." Does torture bring about desired results - doubtful! Is information obtained under torture credible - again doubtful, but it gives the torturers what they want to hear! In my view anyone who tortures another living thing, human or animal, is amongst the lowest of lowest from the dregs of humanity. But lets take another tack. When our enemies are engaging in torture we castigate them for it, when we do it it appears to be alright. Some double standard. What utter bs. The other side of the coin is that how long before we forget about the war on terror and implement such practises in our prisons if for no other reason than some saddistic prison guards want to get their jollies off? Can not happen? Think again! It appears to be current practise in American jails. In short, anyone who propounds the use of torture for any reason is either sick in the head or is an out and out saddist!. Cheers Justice John Paul Stevens of the US Supreme Court hit the nail on the head when he said “… for if this nation is to remain true … it must not wield the tools of tyrants even to resist an assault by the forces of tyranny.”
One could add that to that comment “… and that if we do so that makes us no better than the tyrant.”
Does torture bring about desired results – doubtful!
Is information obtained under torture credible – again doubtful, but it gives the torturers what they want to hear!
In my view anyone who tortures another living thing, human or animal, is amongst the lowest of lowest from the dregs of humanity.
But lets take another tack. When our enemies are engaging in torture we castigate them for it, when we do it it appears to be alright. Some double standard. What utter bs.
The other side of the coin is that how long before we forget about the war on terror and implement such practises in our prisons if for no other reason than some saddistic prison guards want to get their jollies off? Can not happen? Think again! It appears to be current practise in American jails.
In short, anyone who propounds the use of torture for any reason is either sick in the head or is an out and out saddist!.
Cheers

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.ambitgambit.com/2005/05/20/torture-blofeld/comment-page-1/#comment-751 Jennifer Mon, 23 May 2005 11:28:14 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=620#comment-751 I agree there needs to be discussion. Clearly people are being tortured. But where might a 'regulatory regime' for torture (assuming that this would follow from accepting torture) begin and end? I agree there needs to be discussion. Clearly people are being tortured.
But where might a ‘regulatory regime’ for torture (assuming that this would follow from accepting torture) begin and end?

]]> By: Larvatus Prodeo http://www.ambitgambit.com/2005/05/20/torture-blofeld/comment-page-1/#comment-752 Larvatus Prodeo Mon, 23 May 2005 11:03:15 +0000 http://localhost/ambit/?p=620#comment-752 <strong>Tortuous Reasoning IV</strong> What did Bagaric and Clarke start? All the torture advocates are coming out of the woodwork now, the latest being former NCA head Peter Faris QC: Mr Faris said it would be acceptable to use torture in criminal investigations. "A psychopathic murd... Tortuous Reasoning IV

What did Bagaric and Clarke start? All the torture advocates are coming out of the woodwork now, the latest being former NCA head Peter Faris QC:
Mr Faris said it would be acceptable to use torture in criminal investigations.
“A psychopathic murd…

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