Comments on: Fahrenheit 9/11- Bile and Baloney

By: matthew easlea

matthew easlea — Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:38:56 +0000

Graham,
“Libya, As a result of the Iraq War”?
The process of libya reunifying with the international community had begun long before the Iraq war. It started with Qadhafi son studying democracy in various international colleges and the resulting change of opinion in his Father. To imply that Libya was “threatend” into Behaving, or bullied into submission, is neither desirable or true. Real change will come from within the country, not as a result of our violence.
They are also refusing to pay American victims of Libya’s international terrorism activities until the American’s pay compenstation for victims of US bombing campaigns within Libya.

By: Graham Young

Graham Young — Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:50:51 +0000

Shery,
I don’t understand what you are saying. Saudi Arabia has somewhere around 25% of the world’s proved oil reserves, and 45% of its GDP is generated by oil. Libya is also an oil producer. Oil amounts to approximately 100% of its exports and 25% of its GDP.
Libya, as a result of the Iraq War, has also foresworn its weapons programmes, owned up to a number of terrorist actions and is actually paying reparation for the Berlin Disco Bombing http://www.eubusiness.com/afp/040811145451.iroo6scn.
I don’t have a problem with the left per se. But I do have a problem with people who don’t do their research properly, or just ignore the facts, and as a result say really stupid things. Michael Moore is in that category. If you want to know what is going on in the world, his movies aren’t a good place to start.

By: Graham Young

Graham Young — Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:38:53 +0000

Matt,
I’m agnostic on the medium, but not on the method. Each medium has its own strengths and weaknesses. Four Corners screened a show earlier this year which was a pretty good expose on the Neo-Con line which has been to invade Iraq since I think even before the first Gulf War.

By: shery

shery — Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:37:13 +0000

The only ‘psychosis’ I find amusing as an outcome to Moores movie is the right wing extreme views that either – ‘its all untrue’ – even though the footage and documents have credibility. And the rubbish about “the war we had to have” – Libya & Saudi Arabia has more WMS and terrorists than Iraq so why isnt Bush going after them!? The facts all speak for themselves ! (no OIL !). I am astounded at how some right winged ‘extremists’ choose to ignore this. How disgusting ! I dont think I could ever vote libs again ! Downer is a disgusting example of this with he’s disgustingly arrogant views and comments which reflect as such. No wonder there is a huge movement to the left. People so confuse ‘ideology’ with ‘whats best or what right for the country’ !

By: Ads

Ads — Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:46:14 +0000

I have seen “debunking” sites and they generally do a very poor job of anything except proclaiming their own hatred of MM and anything that conflicts with their right wing views. As bias asmuch of the movie is MM does raise many good points that deserve attention and he should be getting some praise for highlighting these issues which are generally ignored in the american media in favour of naval-gazing and chest thumping.

By: matt byrne

matt byrne — Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:29:55 +0000

I’d like to comment but I haven’t seen the film. My question is though, what form (in your opinion) should a thorough, objective and factual critique of the Bush administration take? is film OK, or would print be a better method?
NB I’m not making any judgements on the film or your thoughts on it, i myslf just can’t see how film can deliver the best critique of an administration like that of the Bush administration.

By: john

john — Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:04:38 +0000

You might not think much of Mr Moores flim but whats your take on the stuff dished out by FOX in the US and the slavish adherence to the Murdock line on display in his papers and on FOX you think Mr Moore tells porkies what about friend Murdock